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The Louisa City Council met Tuesday, August 8, 2017 at City Hall. Those in attendance were Mayor Harold Slone, Mitch Castle Member, Ron Cordle Member, Matt Brown Member, Lisa Schaeffer Member, Tom Parsons Member, John Nolan Member, Jason Helton Water and Sewer Clerk and Eldred Adams City Attorney.

 

The meeting was called to order after the opening pledge and prayer.

*  Approve minutes for July 11, 2017. - Motion by John Nolan, second by Lisa Schaeffer, all in agreement.

*  Motion by Ron Cordle, second by Mitch Castle to approve the 2016-2017 Budget adjustments. All revenue and expenditures are tracked daily.

LVFD Assistant Chief Jeff Kinser at city council meetingLVFD Assistant Chief Jeff Kinser at city council meeting

*  The bid for the Louisa Fire Department replacement of air packs went to DILS Fire and Safety of Huntington, WV for $128,524.92.

"This amount is less than the grant the Fire Department received," Assistant chief, Jeff Kinser said.  "The air packs are MSA brand with a 15 year warranty."

Motion by John Nolan, second by Ron Cordle to accept the bid. All were in agreement.

*  The bids for the new city buildings which include a salt shed and an equipment building were opened and read. The Council tabled the item because all of the bids were above the estimates given when the specifications were obtained for the buildings.

The lowest bid received was from Rose Roofing and Carpentry which was $22,000 for the salt shed (30x40) and $58,000 for the equipment building. The Mayor said he will check with the company that gave the estimate and communicate that to the Council.

*  The Council voted to approve the Drinking Water Project which replaces the oldest water lines in the city to include Boone, Pike, Lackey, Rice and Pocahontas.

The KIA loan was applied for over a year ago but the city decided not to do another huge project in addition to the Water/Sewer Rehab Project. The loan was $834,000 of which 50% would be forgiven leaving the City to repay $417,000 at 1.25% interest over a 30 yr term.

This project was approved last week by the Utility Board. Motion by Ron Cordle, second by Tom Parsons to approve this project. All were in agreement.

*  Motion by Tom Parsons, second by Matt Brown to approve Grant Source Professionals to assist again this year with the grant application for the Fire Department 2017.

*  A discussion took place about allowing the KY TrailTown Group, headed by Cathi Kise Wells, use of an office space within the Louisa Community Center. Louisa /Lawrence County is excited about applying for Trail Town Certification, Mayor Slone said.

*  Eldred Adams explained new liquor laws to those present.  

"As of 8-29-17 Kentucky Liquor Laws will change. The new law could possibly allow local city councils to approve or prohibit the sale of alcohol, by the drink only. Also, the 50% Food Consumption Rule no longer applies."

The City Council voted to prohibit the sale of alcohol by the drink (as in a bar or nightclub). Motion by Mitch Castle, second by Lisa Schaeffer. All were in agreement. The City's Ordinance will be amended and brought forth at next month's meeting.

*  Adams also updated the Council on the Deed prepared for the 167 sewer easements acquired by the city from the county. Motion by Ron Cordle, second by Matt Brown. All were in agreement.

The Council then went into Executive Session to review actual litigation and the purchase of real property. Upon return, Adams said that the Council had given him instruction on how to proceed with the possible real estate purchase.

The meeting was then adjourned.

 

Comments  

-1 #27 Lisa Schaeffer Counc 2017-08-24 11:11
Hey Lazer Guys we need some clarification on this article. We have always had Liquor by the drink since Louisa went wet. But 50% of sales at that location must be from food. Toro Locoa and Stars& Stripes etc already have these Licenses. Louisa population is so small it can only have a few of these. I dont really know why anyone would want the bars like Fort Gay has.
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-1 #26 Lisa Schaeffer Counc 2017-08-24 11:07
We voted down liquor by the drink in an establishment that does not sell any food. That's the way the law has always been since Louisa went wet. The establishment can sell liquor by the drink as long as 50% of their income is derived from Food sales. We already have the example... Toro Loco, Stars & Stripes. We do not want the bars the Fort Gay currently has. We all felt over whelmingly so that those type of establishments did'nt have the best interests of Louisa in mind. If those places are what you guys want, you will have to go there. I have always supported Louisa being Wet. But I do not want the trouble that comes with the Red Neck Bars.
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-1 #25 citizen 2017-08-23 19:22
Quoting Jokers:
Why is it that Ashland can have a bar, but not Louisa, what exactly is the difference besides location? Explain that to us adults that spend our own $ that we worked for however we want. People are seriously mistaken if they think us adults need watching over, lol. I moved out a long time ago, not a regular at any bar, but every bar has their regulars, so what? You're a judgmental clown, talking about how people spend too much at the bar, lol, it's literally none of your damn business. I don't drink anymore, but I'm sure folks around here are just as grown up as adults in Ashland or anywhere else. You're judging and fear mongering, plain and simple. Folks like you also wanted to keep Louisa dry, and used your fear mongering tactics, Louisa has been wet for awhile now, guess what? We're all still doing fine, you're the biggest joker on the whole internet, lol it's 2017...
The last "bar" Ashland had was Rumors Lounge in the Ashland Plaza Hotel. Some of the restaurants have bars installed for single/couple seating but not to just hang out an drink. The private clubs in Ashland would be the closest thing to a bar Ashland has. I would imagine if Toro Loco and others wanted to set a type of bar seating the city would not object.
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-1 #24 Jokers 2017-08-17 19:29
Who the hell do you really think you are to say most drinkers around here aren't responsible? That's an opinion at best, people can spend their money how they want, it's none of your damn judgmental business at all. Prohibition ended for a reason a hell of a long time ago. I'm sure you've spent money on things I would find ridiculous, but IT IS NONE OF MY BUSINESS...Who are you to tell grown ups how to live and what you think is best for them,lol get off your high horse there chief.
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-3 #23 Citz 2017-08-17 14:50
It would be different if a nice restaurant with a bar would come in. They're not coming so quit whining about a bar. You know and won't admit that a bar that is put in Louisa is going to be a dump for drunks and idiots to hang out at at all hours just like Ft gays bars. A nice restaurant with a bar is a different story. A hole in the wall dump like ft gay has is what we'd get.
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-3 #22 Ole Racer 2017-08-17 05:20
Quoting Jokers:
Why is it that Ashland can have a bar, but not Louisa, what exactly is the difference besides location? Explain that to us adults that spend our own $ that we worked for however we want. People are seriously mistaken if they think us adults need watching over, lol. I moved out a long time ago, not a regular at any bar, but every bar has their regulars, so what? You're a judgmental clown, talking about how people spend too much at the bar, lol, it's literally none of your damn business. I don't drink anymore, but I'm sure folks around here are just as grown up as adults in Ashland or anywhere else. You're judging and fear mongering, plain and simple. Folks like you also wanted to keep Louisa dry, and used your fear mongering tactics, Louisa has been wet for awhile now, guess what? We're all still doing fine, you're the biggest joker on the whole internet, lol it's 2017...


Son, you may be an adult, and you "may" be responsible, but, most "drinkers around here are not. Just buying the cheap beer is too expensive at $30.00 a case. Don't you realize what that $30 bucks every other day can do for a family? Most are already on food stamps, and they take their cash to buy their beer. They hang in Fort Gay like lice. Yep been there done that myself! I quit the stuff. Found a much better way to live my life, and believe me, there's better ways of living than laying in a stinking bar, with the skanky women hanging all over ya, and causing your family to do without stuff because you wasted it all on drinking. You ain't fooling nobody around here. Everybody knows that drinking does hurt other people, especially your family. This area is plagued with drunks and drugs. Now you want Louisa full of staggering drunks too? Take your arguing someplace else man.
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0 #21 Jokers 2017-08-17 01:36
Quoting Go 4 it:
I wish they'd put the bar beside the homes of the people that are so gung.ho for it. Then maybe you'd see why decent people don't want it in their back yard. Who brought this before council in the first place? I don't know of a decent bar in the state. Low life bar hags is another thing we don't need in Louisa.

Are you serious? Not a decent bar in the entire state? How many bars you been to?
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-1 #20 Zebulon 2017-08-16 23:14
Just when I was beginning to think Louisa might actually be a modern, progressive city. Wrong. Instead, you're just an Inez with a liquor license. You people say bar like it's a bad thing. Are Outback, Texas Roadhouse, Max & Erma's, O'Charley's, are they bad things? -- places where educated people can go on Saturday or
Sunday and have brunch -- you know, that meal between breakfast and lunch where you can order, Eggs Benedicts & bloody marys, places like Fat Patty's or Lizzie B's and have a glass of white wine with your salad, etc. -- like every other civilized city in the country. You people are doing more damage to Louisa than the bars over in Fort Gay ever did. Now, whatever happens to the economy here, it's folks like you who caused it. Go home and celebrate.
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-4 #19 Go 4 it 2017-08-16 19:55
I wish they'd put the bar beside the homes of the people that are so gung.ho for it. Then maybe you'd see why decent people don't want it in their back yard. Who brought this before council in the first place? I don't know of a decent bar in the state. Low life bar hags is another thing we don't need in Louisa.
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-1 #18 Jokers 2017-08-16 19:52
Why is it that Ashland can have a bar, but not Louisa, what exactly is the difference besides location? Explain that to us adults that spend our own $ that we worked for however we want. People are seriously mistaken if they think us adults need watching over, lol. I moved out a long time ago, not a regular at any bar, but every bar has their regulars, so what? You're a judgmental clown, talking about how people spend too much at the bar, lol, it's literally none of your damn business. I don't drink anymore, but I'm sure folks around here are just as grown up as adults in Ashland or anywhere else. You're judging and fear mongering, plain and simple. Folks like you also wanted to keep Louisa dry, and used your fear mongering tactics, Louisa has been wet for awhile now, guess what? We're all still doing fine, you're the biggest joker on the whole internet, lol it's 2017...
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-5 #17 Another View 2017-08-16 05:10
I applaud city council! We do NOT need a bar in downtown Louisa. We do not need a bunch of drunken, cursing, brawling people in downtown Louisa. We have a nice town, where our families are able to walk the streets on warm Summer evenings, etc. Our kids do not need to be exposed to drunken males and females! A "bar" is nothing that Louisa needs., and you know, you are right, someone does need to be the parents of these so-called adults who "visit" these bars so often, as it is quite evident, they are not making good decisions on their own. MOST regular visitors to a bar, do so far too often, waste far too much money in it, and many times, end up making their families miserable because of it. so, NO "Jokers", we do not need bars in town. Fort Gay's past history is great for us to learn from.
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-2 #16 Jokers 2017-08-15 18:06
You negative naysayers obviously think Louisa folks aren't adult or civil enough to have a bar, why?
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-2 #15 Jokers 2017-08-15 17:57
WhyQuoting Citz:
Good for us. I can see some low life opening a skanky bar in a good neighborhood. I sure don't want it on my street. Drunks coming and going at all hours. Keep it like it is.

Why does it always have to be a bad thing, same thing was said for years if Louisa went wet, it went wet and we're absolutely fine. So again why can't Louisa have a nice money making bar or two, people were using this same argument during prohibition in the 1930's, grow up it's 2017 and we're all adults. Fear mongering on this topic is laughable. Why can't it be a nice bar? What "good" neighborhood?
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-1 #14 Citz 2017-08-15 09:19
Good for us. I can see some low life opening a skanky bar in a good neighborhood. I sure don't want it on my street. Drunks coming and going at all hours. Keep it like it is.
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-2 #13 Clarification 2017-08-15 00:11
1. If Louisa had a bar it would be more,like a Fort Gay style dope den and less like Two Keys Tavern in Lexington.

2. Every city doesn't have a bar.
Case in point - Louisa.

3. Passing out free needles as part of a Harm Reduction Syringe Exchange Program in order to allow addicts to access needed treatment resources isn't comparable to a bar. It's apples and oranges. Bars have no solutions attached to them. Comprehensive Harm Reduction Syringe Exchange Programs do. Nice try though. Valliant effort. Really.
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0 #12 Jokers 2017-08-14 18:07
You all do realize that a bar doesn't have to be a dope den, lol. I guess by that logic ALL bars are dope dens. Get real...
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0 #11 Seriously 2017-08-14 02:53
Quoting Clarification:
This vote prohibits a venue that doesn't have at least 50 seats and that doesn't bring in at least 50% of it's revenue from food sales from opening. Toro Loco and Stars and Stripes will be unaffected by this ruling. Only thing that happens is Louisa doesn't get a Fort Gay style dope den that serves alcohol. And that's a win in my eyes.

Dope Den = free needles
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+2 #10 Seriously 2017-08-14 02:50
The council wants to pass out free needless to addicts but are concerned about serving a drink! Do you all know how dumb that makes you look!
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-3 #9 Jokers 2017-08-12 18:53
What's the difference if they sell by the drink in a restaurant/bar and just having a regular bar? What's your point? Do you idiots think Lawrence Countians can't have a completely legal bar? WHY??? Every city has a BAR, what are you afraid of? You're trying to be parents to adults.
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-2 #8 Jokers 2017-08-12 18:50
Quoting Clarification:
This vote prohibits a venue that doesn't have at least 50 seats and that doesn't bring in at least 50% of it's revenue from food sales from opening. Toro Loco and Stars and Stripes will be unaffected by this ruling. Only thing that happens is Louisa doesn't get a Fort Gay style dope den that serves alcohol. And that's a win in my eyes.
Why does a bar in Louisa have to be a Fort Gay style dope den? All bars across this free country are good and bad, but to say it has to be a dope den is just fear mongering at its best. Once again Louisa is trying to control what ADULTS can and can't do, jokers...
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-1 #7 Clarification 2017-08-12 11:38
This vote prohibits a venue that doesn't have at least 50 seats and that doesn't bring in at least 50% of it's revenue from food sales from opening. Toro Loco and Stars and Stripes will be unaffected by this ruling. Only thing that happens is Louisa doesn't get a Fort Gay style dope den that serves alcohol. And that's a win in my eyes.
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+1 #6 CIA 2017-08-12 01:30
This law will not effect restaurants is just bars. You will still be able to by drinks at Toro Loco and Stars and Stripes.
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-1 #5 No Way 2017-08-11 17:53
What we need is grape juice bars! If people could have some of this new wine (by the drink), they wouldn't need the stuff that makes you lose clothes.
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+1 #4 Otis 2017-08-11 16:16
So no more Toro Loco or Stars and Stripe music on the drive threw, wow guess all those drunks were just too much for the local police and package sales. Or is it the rehab part with a couple of the council members, heck I have seen {name omitted} sit down and have a few while dining, Louisa just amazes me sometimes
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+3 #3 Lynn 2017-08-11 15:50
I think if Louisa is going to grow, they really need a descent restaurant in town that can serve alcohol by the drink. If the city is going to place a trail directly in the downtown area there should be a restaurant close enough for people to walk to. I understand there is two others that serve alcohol but they are not within close walking distance of downtown.
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